Can a concealed carry permit holder carry a concealed handgun in a park? On a playground? The legislature has changed the law in this area twice in recent years and I get lots of questions about it. This post summarizes the basics.
Concealed weapons generally are forbidden. Carrying a concealed weapon of any kind, including a gun, is generally against the law in North Carolina. G.S. 14-269 (making it “unlawful for any person willfully and intentionally to carry concealed about his person” a deadly weapon, including any “pistol or gun”).
Concealed carry with a permit generally is allowed. If a person obtains a concealed handgun permit, the person may carry a concealed handgun “unless otherwise specifically prohibited by law.” G.S. 14-415.11(a). In other words, having a concealed carry permit brings the permit holder outside the scope of the generic concealed weapons prohibition. G.S. 14-269(a1)(2).
When concealed carry with a permit isn’t allowed. Even concealed carry permit holders can’t carry everywhere. Concealed carry is prohibited in certain places, most of which are listed in G.S. 14-415.11(c). So, for example, even permit holders can’t carry on school grounds, G.S. 14-269.2, in courthouses, G.S. 14-269.4, in a “law enforcement or correctional facility,” G.S. 14-415.11(c)(5), or on any private premises where a notice prohibiting concealed handguns has been posted. There are other exceptions, too, and there are exceptions to some of the exceptions, but they don’t concern parks so I won’t get into them in this post.
Where do state parks fit in? Permit holders may carry concealed weapons in state parks under G.S. 14-415.11(c1).
Where do local parks fit in? Most of the questions I’ve had are about local parks. State law does not prohibit concealed carry in local parks, so any limitations on concealed carry in local parks would have to come from local government. Generally, however, local governments don’t have the authority to regulate or restrict concealed carry. G.S. 14-415.23 (stating that “no political subdivisions . . . of the State nor any county [or] city . . . may enact ordinances . . . concerning legally carrying a concealed handgun,” except as provided in that section). The apparent purpose of this preemption statute is to prevent the creation of a patchwork of local regulations that would make moving around the state with a concealed weapon impossibly complex. Most states have similar statutes.
There are exceptions to the preemption statue, and at one time, parks were among them. Before 2011, G.S. 14-415.23 provided that local governments could “adopt an ordinance to permit the posting of a prohibition against carrying a concealed handgun . . . on local government buildings, their appurtenant premises, and parks.”
In 2011, though, the General Assembly amended this exception to the preemption statute, essentially replacing “parks” with the narrower phrase “municipal and county recreational facilities that are specifically identified by the unit of local government.” Recreational facilities were defined to “include[] only the following: a playground, an athletic field, a swimming pool, and an athletic facility.” S.L. 2011-268. I received many questions about the new law, like what constitutes a playground, whether an athletic field included the adjoining bleachers and bathrooms, and whether a greenway was an athletic facility. But before we got definite answers to those questions, the legislature changed the law again.
This year, the General Assembly further amended G.S. 14-415.23, changing the definition of recreational facilities to include only:
- athletic fields, “including any appurtenant facilities such as restrooms,” but only during scheduled, organized athletic events
- swimming pools, “including any appurtenant facilities used for dressing, storage of personal items, or other uses related to the swimming pool”
- “[a] facility used for athletic events, including, but not limited to, a gymnasium”
The law now specifies that greenways and “open areas” aren’t recreational facilities. S.L. 2013-369. Playgrounds have been removed from the definition. I have been asked many times why the General Assembly chose to remove playgrounds. I don’t know, and I’m not aware of any meaningful legislative history that would answer the question. If readers are aware of information on point, please let me know or post a comment.
Current law in a nutshell. As things stand now, local governments generally lack the authority to prohibit concealed carry in parks. They may prohibit concealed carry at the recreational facilities listed in the statute, which include neither playgrounds nor greenways.
Local governments retain the authority, under G.S. 14-415.23, to prohibit concealed carry in “local government buildings and their appurtenant premises.” Therefore, if there are buildings in a park, concealed carry may be prohibited in the buildings and on related premises like adjoining parking lots. It isn’t clear exactly what counts as an “appurtenant” premise with respect to G.S. 14-415.23, but in Blackwelder v. Holyoke Mut. Fire Ins. Co., 10 N.C. App. 576 (1971), the court of appeals discussed the meaning of “appurtenant private structure” as used in a fire insurance policy. Generally, the court stated that “appurtenant” means connected in use to, or incidental to the use of, another location.
In order to prohibit concealed carry at a location where it has the power to do so, a local government must pass an ordinance and post conspicuous signs.
Constitutional right to carry? It might be possible to argue that there is a federal or state constitutional right to carry concealed weapons that is broader than state law currently protects, but that strikes me as an uphill battle. Existing law suggests that concealed carry may be completely prohibited, so North Carolina’s system of allowing permit holders to carry concealed handguns in most places appears to be more permissive than is constitutionally required. See District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008) (interpreting the Second Amendment by examining founding-era cases and materials and noting that “the majority of the 19th-century courts to consider the question held that prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons were lawful under the Second Amendment or state analogues”); N.C. Const., Art. I, Sec. 30 (providing the same general right to bear arms as the Second Amendment but also stating that “[n]othing herein shall justify the practice of carrying concealed weapons, or prevent the General Assembly from enacting penal statutes against that practice”).
Open carry. I may do a future post on open carry in parks, which raises a different set of issues and on which the law is less clear.
The CCH Permit holder may leave their firearm in an enclosed container or compartment within, or attached to their locked vehicle, or a locked container or compartment within their vehicle. Presumably, the same is true for persons who carry openly, to secure their firearms while not in the vehicle, at these facilities. No one may possess the firearm outside of their vehicle on parking lots appurtenant to posted facilities. Any person who returns to the vehicle must not access the firearm (as in remove the firearm and return to the event).
Cant carry in the park or posted Wally Worlds but you can in a BAR.
Can a municipality define playgrounds as a facility used for athletic events? Can a municipality schedule the use of a playground as an athletic field during certain times of day? Not one person with whom I’ve spoken–especially parents and bar/ restaurant owners agrees with this law.
A municipality can ban concealed carry on municipally owned playgrounds. Playgrounds are specifically included in recreational facilities.
That was true under the 2011 legislation, but not under the 2013 law.
I am a little confused sorry I have to be explained to like a kindergarten student but are you or are you not allowed to carry in a municipal park with a permit? The whole G.S. 14-415.23 has me confused.
How does the new law affect CPH’s on Carolina Beach’s Freeman Park (a stretch of beach maintained by the town that contains both incorporated and unincorporated parcels of land). The brochures that I have found state that it is still prohibited by the town.
http://www.carolinabeach.org/site_new/pages/documents/FreemanParkInfo.pdf
They took the restriction sign down at the entrance when the law first went into effect. Recently sometime this year, they put a free standing one declaring “no firearms”. This is clearly an abuse of there power based on the change of the laws and the fact that the sign is new.
Last week I was at the Jetton Mecklenburg park and ran across rules posted on a rest room bulletin board stating that fire arms were prohibited. Does this mean no concealed carry in the park or just not in any of the parks structures/buildings. Confusing?
There are still plenty of outdated signs all over the area. I doubt getting the money to replace the 100’s of signs all over the parks and greenways is high on any city’s list. So yes you can carry in/on parks and greenways as pursuint to the new laws.
I got a friend that was at Wayne’s Brough park last week and a Wayne County deputy went up to him and told him he could not be there with a weapon on him. There are no signs out there stating no fire arms. Can you please let me know where we stand on this. I do not want to get in any trouble while I am carring my weapon in the parks in Wayne County.
Could you please send me some information on open carry in parks. Thank you for your assistance.
I open carry here in NC. Can I also carry open where conceal carry. etc. walkways, parks, and have it locked in a compartment while on school grounds. I can not find any information on this. Thank you for your input.
I have a current NC concealed carry permit. In anticipation of the Democratic national in Charlotte in 2012, Charlotte passed an ordinance allowing the city manager to declare a special event with specific prohibitions of items like backpacks, ice picks, box cutters, and even a plastic pipe.
Does my NC permit allow me to carry a concealed weapon within a Charlotte defined special event zone? In essence, can a local ordinance infringe my state permit to carry? Thank you for the consideration.
ok, so if it is legal to carry with a permit in State parks, why does the pamphlet for Blue Jay Park off Six Forks Rd specifically state that firearms are prohibited?
Anderson Park in Raleigh NC just has new signs up that prohibit for rearms in the park. I thought you could carry in parks if you had a CCW permit.
If its concealed, then why not carry, dont flash the gun around and no one will know. And no trouble at all..
Can a town allow open carry along greenways, even if parts of the greenway are on privately owned property? Does that town have to give the owner the option or provide signage if the owner does not allow guns on their property? Can the town allow guns on a privately owned property against the landowners will?